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Post by sawadee on Aug 2, 2006 3:28:50 GMT 7
For the start on this issue.
what i have found so far.
Girls who use to work in GL. have to agree with certain term. i have got it today with a GL girl today.
1. cannot fall in love 2. cannot sleep with boss 3. she cannnot remember but she said she hear from pple that cannot marry a singaporean but she cannot confirm.
will try to get more info n update it.
as for the work permit it being issue by AV when they come to work here once they go back they will sign off with AV and then send to ICA to do some paper work.
Usually before the girl go back after her tour in singapore. officer will tell them the restriction. they are not suppose to come back to singapore 1 to 2 yrs after she finish her work here. if she comes back without obeying the law she will be jailed.
after 1 to 2 yrs of restriction she will be free to come to singapore for visit.
** note ** pls dont ask ur gf come to singapore with a change passport or change name or use a fake passport. if get caught that is the end. she will be banned perm.
if she change her name n comes back after 2 yrs pls ask her to declare that she have change named else she will get into trouble. must declare truthfully else she had to answer the law here.
as for the restirction it all depend on the ICA it could be 1 to 2 yrs or maybe perm banned from coming here again. it all depend on the officer. this have been verify by my okt friend.
getting married in singapore is not a problem but getting her extension is a problem. ICA will decide to give her or not.
** Note ** Pls declare truthfully when u apply for her short or long term pass. if u dont u mostly get jailed n fine about 15k plus ur gf getting jailed also.
ICA have tell me that it is possible that she may not be able to get the pass but we can try again after a few yrs. i think they wanna make sure we are really true for each other b4 they decide to give it to u. but that is what i think i maybe wrong.
ICA said they will access the perosn who apply the pass to see whether he is able to earn enough to feed the gf and what kind of work we are doing before deciding giving her a pass. ICA did not said they will reject them even they use to work here but it maybe a hidden issue. nobody know for sure unless we get some info on this.
also whether they can really married a sgp after she have stop work in singapore. that is another big question mark @ the moment.
if i have any update i will share with the bros here who have tirak from wL in sgp.
Chok dee krup
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Post by vmtech on Aug 28, 2006 17:53:06 GMT 7
thanks bro for the info i have a qn my girl (used to be WL in SGP) already out of SG for 2yrs, if she wishes to come back to SGP for visit, no problem right? however i got some problems as when she came to SGP in e past, she came with a fake thai PP (she's shan under 21 @ tt time so she has no pp)
but now she is able to get a international pp (legit) and visa, will tt pose any problems? wht should be done?
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Post by bahnoo on Aug 28, 2006 19:47:46 GMT 7
thanks bro for the info i have a qn my girl (used to be WL in SGP) already out of SG for 2yrs, if she wishes to come back to SGP for visit, no problem right? however i got some problems as when she came to SGP in e past, she came with a fake thai PP (she's shan under 21 @ tt time so she has no pp) but now she is able to get a international pp (legit) and visa, will tt pose any problems? wht should be done? hmmm bro it a sticky question. WL in sgp u saying she use to work here in GL? it all depend after she left singapore whether the ICA told her how long she is being banned from coming into singapore. from what i gather it could be 1, 2 or maybe indef. she should know, go ask her. From what i gather from my friends usually 1 to 2yrs banned. She use a fake passport. did she every get caught if so her chances coming here is very very low. she maybe banned perm but that u have to check. sorry i have a question for u. u said she was under 21 when she come here using fake passport. if she work WL in GL she cannot work here bcos the law said she only can come here work if she is 21. unless u saying she work as FL then it diff already. anyway if FL n now u have real passport n come in no problem the no problem liao If WL in GL to be frank u will have a lot of problem with ICA after u get married. she may not be granted visit pass for short or long term. it depend on ur luck liao. GL girls from what i hear is they are not suppose to marry a SGP guy. but it not said impossible, u can try ur luck. so u had to be prepare for the worst n see what u gonna do next. Chokdee Bahnoo
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Post by vmtech on Aug 29, 2006 9:25:45 GMT 7
hello, yes she was under 21 and didnt have a pp , so she had a fake thai pp made and of cuz the age was edited to 21yo!
she used to work in GL house not FL. but she was never caught with e fake pp, just tt im worried
what should be done? if she has her legit international pp done and goes apply for travel in all e correct ways after not being in SGP for 3 yrs, possible ?
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Post by bahnoo on Aug 29, 2006 11:41:41 GMT 7
Hello bro.
I hope i will not dishearten u... below is my answers
hello, yes she was under 21 and didnt have a pp , so she had a fake thai pp made and of cuz the age was edited to 21yo!
now i understand, some girls do make fake passport n come to sgp n work as WL. there was a case recently in GL where a girl got killed and when ICA try to trace her ident with thai side. they find out she not from thailand, she did a fake passport to come here n work.
she used to work in GL house not FL. but she was never caught with e fake pp, just tt im worried.
what should be done? if she has her legit international pp done and goes apply for travel in all e correct ways after not being in SGP for 3 yrs, possible ?
You should be worry bro. when they come to work in GL. all their fingers are being scan into the antivice for record.
if ICA n AV really check she may get into trouble. this is the risk u gonna take.
that is why when they come to singapore n visit. filling up the form got ask whether she has come to singapore b4 and use a diff name.
i believe coming into singapore should not be a problem if they dont check in detail but when u go ROM liao then apply long term pass or PR, they may ask her to scan her finger prints. if ICA really ask her to scan then her record will flag out .
One thing, i have already said usually when the girls go back to thailand after their 1yr tour in singapore, ICA mostly banned them from coming to singapore for 1 yr but it depend on the officer, from what i gather from the ICA officer it could be 2 or 3 yrs and even indef. so u need to check with ur girl, ICA officers will tell her.
short / long term pass and PR forms, in the forms ask whether she have stay in a country for more then 1yr during the past 5yrs. since she ever stay in singapore for 1yr n now she been back in thailand for 3yrs mean she have to declare that she stay in singapore n work. if u state she never stay here b4 n never change name. if find out u will be in deep trouble. u will go to jail or kanna heavy fine.
I talk to an OKT friend of mine. there is this guy who declare his gf never stay in sgp and never state she change name. he got fine about 15k and his gf got jail for 3mths.
so my advice mai play play. I even talk to ICA officer b4 their only advices to me is to state the truth n let them decide else we had to answer to the law in singapore.
I do hope everything will be smooth for u bro. i know alot of bros who get involved with a WL in sgp going to have alot of trouble n problem ahead of them.
Your tirak n u just had to work towards your goal n solve every problem u encounter. i too have my own problem with my girl. i will know whether things will work out with me n my girl when she really come down to sgp. @ this moment we already have problem with our relationship so who knows maybe it will not last long. well i just have to see n wait, time will tell whether we can be together.
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Post by taurus75 on Aug 29, 2006 12:09:16 GMT 7
so nevertheless..is there anyway that can check with anti-vice? coz i believe there seems to be no website for anti-vice.. i also believe other than finger prints..AV will also take photo of those gals working as WLs at GL...
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Post by vmtech on Aug 29, 2006 12:47:07 GMT 7
so can i say tt when she is applying to come to SGP for a visit, just be honest n tell em she came to SG b4 in e past with a diff pp?
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Post by bahnoo on Aug 29, 2006 12:50:03 GMT 7
so nevertheless..is there anyway that can check with anti-vice? coz i believe there seems to be no website for anti-vice.. i also believe other than finger prints..AV will also take photo of those gals working as WLs at GL... photo or no photo im not sure but if AV really check they use fingerprint scanning can tell u every thing liao. so no way u can siam them de.
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Post by bahnoo on Aug 29, 2006 12:54:26 GMT 7
so can i say tt when she is applying to come to SGP for a visit, just be honest n tell em she came to SG b4 in e past with a diff pp? To be frank bro, i dont know how to answer u this question. cos she use to have a fake passport to come here n work. so to said or not to said she use to stay here is a problem. i dare not advice u on this. it the risk u gonna take. dont tell them it a fake maybe said she change passport n name lor. but it all up to u bro. also remember to check with her how long she was banned from coming to singapore. if is one yr then she should be able to come in for social visit. This already confirm with ICA officer. they said so long after 1 yr banned she should have no problem coming in. so long she fulfiled the ICA rules n regulation. getting married with a sgp guy is also not a problem, it all up to ICA whether they wanna give u the pass or PR after ur are married. The officer said that there is a posibility she may not get the pass. so it all up to ur luck liao. Chokdee Bahnoo
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Post by vmtech on Aug 29, 2006 14:23:00 GMT 7
so can i say tt when she is applying to come to SGP for a visit, just be honest n tell em she came to SG b4 in e past with a diff pp? To be frank bro, i dont know how to answer u this question. cos she use to have a fake passport to come here n work. so to said or not to said she use to stay here is a problem. i dare not advice u on this. it the risk u gonna take. dont tell them it a fake maybe said she change passport n name lor. but it all up to u bro. also remember to check with her how long she was banned from coming to singapore. if is one yr then she should be able to come in for social visit. This already confirm with ICA officer. they said so long after 1 yr banned she should have no problem coming in. so long she fulfiled the ICA rules n regulation. getting married with a sgp guy is also not a problem, it all up to ICA whether they wanna give u the pass or PR after ur are married. The officer said that there is a posibility she may not get the pass. so it all up to ur luck liao. Chokdee Bahnoo ok korp mak Bahnoo. if i tell em diff passport but 1 is thai(fake) and another 1 is myanmar international. can? so all the above info u asked ICA officer issit? tt puts me abit @ ease..
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Post by bahnoo on Aug 29, 2006 14:28:40 GMT 7
To be frank bro, i dont know how to answer u this question. cos she use to have a fake passport to come here n work. so to said or not to said she use to stay here is a problem. i dare not advice u on this. it the risk u gonna take. dont tell them it a fake maybe said she change passport n name lor. but it all up to u bro. also remember to check with her how long she was banned from coming to singapore. if is one yr then she should be able to come in for social visit. This already confirm with ICA officer. they said so long after 1 yr banned she should have no problem coming in. so long she fulfiled the ICA rules n regulation. getting married with a sgp guy is also not a problem, it all up to ICA whether they wanna give u the pass or PR after ur are married. The officer said that there is a posibility she may not get the pass. so it all up to ur luck liao. Chokdee Bahnoo ok korp mak Bahnoo. if i tell em diff passport but 1 is thai(fake) and another 1 is myanmar international. can? so all the above info u asked ICA officer issit? tt puts me abit @ ease.. no it not ok bro. think u still dont get what i mean. do not said it a fake passport. she sure get into trouble. maybe u can said she change passport that is all. "It still a risk if they find out, even u declare as fake passport it going to be worst" As i have said im in no position to tell u how to go about doing it cos it a very big risk n i cant advice on u this. if she have never make fake passport maybe it will be much ez to do but bcos of her fake passport things maybe diff. go check her fake passport. her passport no. for the fake is diff then her real passport no. that may post a problem cos when change name ur passport no. is still the same. yes i did talk to them. but not on fake passport.
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Post by vmtech on Aug 29, 2006 18:52:42 GMT 7
fake pp thrown away long ago... it wont be the same pp number as the her myanmar pp as she never had a myanmar pp when she made e fake thai pp..
i understand tt just tell immigration tt she changed pp, but she's a myanbar change to thai, if they ask this how am i gonna answer?
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Post by bahnoo on Aug 29, 2006 20:23:19 GMT 7
fake pp thrown away long ago... it wont be the same pp number as the her myanmar pp as she never had a myanmar pp when she made e fake thai pp.. i understand tt just tell immigration tt she changed pp, but she's a myanbar change to thai, if they ask this how am i gonna answer? frankly i really dont know how to answer ur question. how to tell them she use to have a thai passport n now she have a myanmar passport. if im the ICA officer i will think she may have use a fake passport b4. how can a thai change to myanmar or myanmar to thai. isnt it abit fishy about it. unless she migrate to thailand or myanmar. bro there is so many hole. i really cant advice u on this. unless u just wanna try ur luck dont declare n then said she from myanmar n full stop. then rom n apply for long term pass n the PR. just hope nothing happen or ICA ask her to scan her fingerprint. if by then she get a PR without fingerprint scan then maybe u have pass the dangerous stage. i think u had to decide what u gonna do. i see no point declaring she use a thai passport before, since she from myanmar this will make things worst. declaring fake passport is a no no. ur tirak sure kanna from ICA and maybe banned from coming into singapore in the future. U had to decide what u gonna do bud. no one can advice or help u on this. it really a big question mark. Same like me, i myself have to deal with my problem n see what is good to help my girl to come down. Im no ICA officer n really dare not to tell u how to do it cos i dont want u kanna trouble bcos of my words. I only can wish u all the best n lucks n hope u can bring ur tirak back to sgp. Chokdee Krup Bahnoo
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Post by vmtech on Aug 30, 2006 11:25:06 GMT 7
ok thanks. where's a 1st stop i should be? can i go down to talk to a officer about my case (as honest as i can) before doing the deed?
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Post by bahnoo on Aug 30, 2006 11:28:54 GMT 7
ICA office. i dont know u should do that but it ur call bud.
Cheers Bahnoo
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